tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post1762505238836781359..comments2024-01-10T04:32:03.578-05:00Comments on Literary Rejections on Display Now Has Long COVID: You Know Who You AreWriter, Rejectedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17241982229214057815noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-35380851901462785172010-07-19T09:46:30.859-04:002010-07-19T09:46:30.859-04:00Anonymous said...
> This was clearly written by...Anonymous said...<br />> This was clearly written by somebody<br />> with a very poor grasp of the space-time<br />> continuum. One cannot simultaneously <br />> demand that more publications accept <br />> more work from more people more quickly <br />> while also demanding that they respond <br />> faster. Publications can either consider<br />> more work or they can respond faster. <br />> They cannot do both.<br /><br />I'm coming to this thread a year late, but I felt that I had to point out, that as a physics graduate, I'm unaware of any constraint in special or general relativity that actually rules this out.<br /><br />Further, it seems to me that if a publication were responding at rate n, and were to increase that rate to 2n, they would be able to to increase the number of responses to x < 2n and still be responding faster, while also responding to more submissions.<br /><br />I'm hoping there might be a paper in this that I can send to 'nature'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-15113117301771333682009-09-04T13:05:25.486-04:002009-09-04T13:05:25.486-04:00I don't think it's fair to call out Americ...I don't think it's fair to call out American Short Fiction on the list of "Pickpockets." Submission manager programs aren't free, so they have to pay for them somehow. It's (as I remember) 2 dollars to submit, which is about the cost of printing, driving to the P.O. and mailing it, so I don't see the problem here.<br /><br />The other journals I can't speak for, but I found the fee to be fair and way more convenient than a drive to the post office. If those other journals are charging 5, 10 or more dollars, sure that's too much and not cool. But don't call out ASF on a ecologically responsible (and self sustaining) practice.Lucashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02513219957630979847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-52761090862030502562009-04-22T22:55:00.000-04:002009-04-22T22:55:00.000-04:00anon 2:01
totes in agreement with you. i don't k...anon 2:01<br /><br />totes in agreement with you. i don't know what percentage of the readers here are novices, so i just gave a guide to identifying which publications are a waste of time submitting to.<br /><br />:)for your edificationnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-43868593637879333122009-04-21T14:01:00.000-04:002009-04-21T14:01:00.000-04:00[i]
if you see the same names over and over, and t...[i]<br />if you see the same names over and over, and they are not famous names, then you have a classic inbreeding journal.[/i]<br /><br />Oh... who gives a shit about those though? They don't help you get to bigger places, they don't get you readers, they don't pay you money... <br /><br />So what if friends want to publish each other in little zines? I think that is healthy and fun. <br /><br />I thought we were talking about real journals though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-92062125753584060772009-04-21T01:21:00.000-04:002009-04-21T01:21:00.000-04:00anon 3:35
1)look at online-only, non-paying publi...anon 3:35<br /><br />1)look at online-only, non-paying publications listed on duotrope. <br /><br />2)click on any journal with a name so bizarre it is either (a) an obscure literary reference that you are not cool enough to get, (b) an inside joke among the contributors, or (c) words randomly generated. <br /><br />3)look at the list of contributors for 2 or 3 back issues. <br /><br />if you see the same names over and over, and they are not famous names, then you have a classic inbreeding journal.<br /><br />this is so novices and hobbyists do not get their spirits crushed with a rejection from such a journal. it's not you, it's them.for your edificationnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-30217228904091238002009-04-19T15:35:00.000-04:002009-04-19T15:35:00.000-04:00[i]
But you can never get through to the inbreedi...[i]<br /><br />But you can never get through to the inbreeding journals, they exist solely as vanity presses for smalls group of friends. [/i]<br /><br /><br />What journals are these exactly? I always hear talk of said journals, but I have no idea which ones they are supposed to be. Certainly not any of hte well regarded ones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-91509419554258587462009-04-19T15:29:00.000-04:002009-04-19T15:29:00.000-04:00I was expecting this to be really annoying but as ...I was expecting this to be really annoying but as an editor and writer I agree with much of this. A few responses: <br /><br />1) Doesn't go far enough for my tastes. Any journal that takes longer than 6 months to send a form rejection should be blacklisted (you can take longer if you are seriously debating a manuscript)<br /><br />3) I agree once a year is too little, but twice a year is fine for me. You have to do something to cut down the slush and I'd prefer a journal that got back to me in 3 months or less but only let me submit twice than a journal that takes a year but theoretically would let me submit more if they actually responded in time. <br /><br />5) I wouldn't lump a journal like the Missouri Review (which only asks 3 bucks and still allows snail mail submissions) with a place like Narrative that wants 20 bucks for a short short. <br /><br /><br />Everything else looks good. <br /><br />Definitly the two biggest problems with literary magazines, from my standpoint are: <br /><br />a) Taking more than 4 months to respond (even though I said six months above, I really think longer than 4 is horrible... and MOST journals should be able to get back in 1-2 months (for anything that is being straight rejected)<br /><br />b) journals demanding no simultaneous submissions. <br /><br /><br />Of course, some of these problems are caused by writers who by and large<br /><br />a) don't buy literary magazines, ensuring they don't have the financial support to be adequately staffed<br /><br />b) dont' even read the journals they submit to, so have no idea what kind of work is appropriate<br /><br />c) carpet bomb every magazine in existence with multiple submissions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-58053024007807370862009-04-18T15:22:00.000-04:002009-04-18T15:22:00.000-04:00Space-time continuum? What? You some kind of Sci-F...Space-time continuum? What? You some kind of Sci-Fi writer?<br /><br />And electronic submissions does not necessarily mean accepting more publications -- you can limit it to twice a year, or only allow submissions for four months out of the year. Also, it speeds up the process, so yes, it might be possible to read faster.<br /><br />And I think it entirely reasonable that journals reply within six months. Over a year is unacceptable.Lit Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-75124380721668291432009-04-18T10:16:00.000-04:002009-04-18T10:16:00.000-04:00Excellent.Excellent.ho humnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-80234552751911415682009-04-17T20:04:00.000-04:002009-04-17T20:04:00.000-04:00Anon 7:19,
Waldo Eisenberg doesn't make any of th...Anon 7:19, <br />Waldo Eisenberg doesn't make any of the demands you accuse him of. He only asks for a little courtesy and common sense. If your literary magazine holds on to a manuscript for a long time, fine, but don't ignore query letters, or demand exclusivity, or think writers won't find it a little demeaning to wait ages only to get a crappy little form rejection from you.Native Inknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-76619064099955638342009-04-17T19:19:00.000-04:002009-04-17T19:19:00.000-04:00This was clearly written by somebody with a very p...This was clearly written by somebody with a very poor grasp of the space-time continuum. One cannot simultaneously demand that more publications accept more work from more people more quickly while also demanding that they respond faster. Publications can either consider more work or they can respond faster. They cannot do both.<br /><br />We do not serve our craft well by making such foolish demands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-45272331472300659812009-04-17T18:58:00.000-04:002009-04-17T18:58:00.000-04:00This one goes to eleven. And is perfect.This one goes to eleven. And is perfect.Dave Clapperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01679302197416841061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-14891352216671095332009-04-17T17:14:00.000-04:002009-04-17T17:14:00.000-04:00Love it! This post made my dreary, doughy day...Love it! This post made my dreary, doughy day...Lindseynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-38996623456053244942009-04-17T13:45:00.000-04:002009-04-17T13:45:00.000-04:00I honestly think most editors avoid submission que...I honestly think most editors avoid submission queries like the plague. I guess they don't want to be reminded that they've been sitting on a manuscript forever. And they certainly don't want to get into a dialogue with an impatient writer, who almost certainly wants to know what chance her story stands. <br /><br />On the other hand, I've queried top-tier magazines about relatively minor stuff (like whether they'll accept a story that's one page longer than their guidelines) and the editors have gotten back to me right away.Native Inknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-69112379644265995902009-04-17T11:28:00.000-04:002009-04-17T11:28:00.000-04:00Har!
But you can never get through to the inbreed...Har!<br /><br />But you can never get through to the inbreeding journals, they exist solely as vanity presses for smalls group of friends. Demand that they open up to other writers and they will fold. They have Duotrope listings, and there are litblogs dedicated to reporting "what's new" with these journals, but that is only frosting on the vanity. <br /><br />I'm sure they appreciate that you noticed them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-59193118540980285132009-04-17T10:57:00.000-04:002009-04-17T10:57:00.000-04:00And then the following correspondence.
"Obviously...And then the following correspondence.<br /><br />"Obviously, Pat Gage, you need to read this email again."<br /><br />then,<br /><br />"Thank you for your insight. I have read it twice.<br /> <br />Blessings,<br /> <br />Pat Gage"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-58162838307873692572009-04-17T10:13:00.000-04:002009-04-17T10:13:00.000-04:00Dear Waldo:
Thank you for your kindness. We are ...Dear Waldo:<br /> <br />Thank you for your kindness. We are dedicated to bringing literature to the digital world for free. And we thank you for your support in our efforts.<br /> <br />Best,<br /> <br />Pat Gage<br /><br />(After being emailed to Narrative magazine.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-72658632236389909252009-04-17T07:51:00.000-04:002009-04-17T07:51:00.000-04:00Loved this. It needs to be nailed to the doors of ...Loved this. It needs to be nailed to the doors of every literary magazine in America.Native Inknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-22607957301802631192009-04-17T06:37:00.000-04:002009-04-17T06:37:00.000-04:00EXCELLENT POST. LET THE SCUFFLE COMMENCE.
YOU MI...EXCELLENT POST. LET THE SCUFFLE COMMENCE.<br /><br />YOU MIGHT EDIT THE LAST SENTENCE ABOUT SEGREGATION THOUGH. APARTHEID LASTED WELL INTO THE NINETIES.CAPS MAN!noreply@blogger.com