tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post3353223998316549693..comments2024-03-25T20:40:44.806-04:00Comments on Literary Rejections on Display Now Has Long COVID: Darin Strauss Rats Us OutWriter, Rejectedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17241982229214057815noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-39904166675667967622010-08-04T03:51:14.270-04:002010-08-04T03:51:14.270-04:00thank you for share,good postthank you for share,good postRoller shoeshttp://www.evolution-shoes.com/Roller-shoes-c3.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-77705856369154158042009-04-13T23:49:00.000-04:002009-04-13T23:49:00.000-04:00Darin was my creative writing teacher. I learned ...Darin was my creative writing teacher. I learned a lot, he was always kind. I'm sad to see some of the meaner posts on hereStudent09https://www.blogger.com/profile/08576450210498624110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-25422619325883495792008-12-26T12:41:00.000-05:002008-12-26T12:41:00.000-05:00Darin: Is that you in disguise creepily defending ...Darin: Is that you in disguise creepily defending yourself in the third person again? I hate to be cynical, but it sounds like you. I bought and read your book for the LROD book club, so I'm familiar with your voice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-21460384040758292742008-12-18T12:40:00.000-05:002008-12-18T12:40:00.000-05:00I didn't read the whole article, just page 3 and 4...I didn't read the whole article, just page 3 and 4, but it certainly made the author look a lot better than the angry jerks who usually post on blogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-50116406410639991192008-12-16T23:32:00.000-05:002008-12-16T23:32:00.000-05:00John writes, "One thing that interests me about th...John writes, "One thing that interests me about this episode is how he hasn't let it go."<BR/><BR/>If I remember correctly (and I do), John dedicated many a blog entry on his own site to attacking Darin, and quite a few of them were weirdly, disconcertingly personal.<BR/><BR/>And didn't the anti-MFA anonymous once say that he was done with LROD and that it was time for him to move on? Or am I confusing the anonymi here? In any event, his anti-MFA tirades are boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring. As usual, he has no idea what the hell he's talking about. These are par-for-the-course rote generalizations of the under(or un-)published. Why don't you dust yourself off and step out of your cave every now and again? It's good to get a little oxygen to the brain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-60909356310885813062008-12-16T13:41:00.000-05:002008-12-16T13:41:00.000-05:00I agree with some of the other commenters that you...I agree with some of the other commenters that you should leave the Darin Strauss issue alone. cut your losses and don't worry about it anymore. Named or unnamed.<BR/><BR/>Also, I think the gist of heynonny's and hey you's comments is that this off-topic, limp dicked sparring between jellyhead and anonymous is out of place. Let's focus on Strauss and W/R here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-66009759490704718052008-12-16T11:01:00.000-05:002008-12-16T11:01:00.000-05:00Hey, hey, hey....let's put a curb on the name-call...Hey, hey, hey....let's put a curb on the name-calling. <BR/><BR/> I think we can express our feelings without stooping to debasing the language: creep and sociopath is definitely not cool. Let's kick the discussion up a notch. We don't want to become the very thing we are accused of being: meanies and sour-pants.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Writer, Rejectedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17241982229214057815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-8263500885602276012008-12-16T10:54:00.001-05:002008-12-16T10:54:00.001-05:00In response to Tim2, I don't know the girl and for...In response to Tim2, I don't know the girl and for all I know it COULD have happened the way he claims, but he's too earnest to claim that he's COMPLETELY INNOCENT of all charges. The article itself is creepy, but the fact that he continually DEMANDS an apology from me for hurting HIS feelings without even a sign he cares about the feelings of the family really sends up a red flag.<BR/><BR/>You're right. It is armchair psychology, but it's the same armchair psychology that we all engaged in when OJ Simpson "accidentally" happened to be in the same area when his wife was murdered. And Ted Bundy had the same reaction when everyone was "falsely accusing" him of murder.<BR/><BR/>Maybe it is an accident that can happen to any of us, but any of us would feel guilty about the accident and feel sorry about what kind of hell we put the girl's family through. Darin Strauss only cares about his reputation and his own hurt feelings.<BR/><BR/>If he's not a sociopath, he's definitely a creep.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-25819383628311292202008-12-16T10:54:00.000-05:002008-12-16T10:54:00.000-05:00The comment from "hey you" should definitely not b...The comment from "hey you" should definitely not be screened out, w/r, despite its crudeness. Nor ignored. There is so much malignant idiocy in the world today, and sometimes we wonder, Who are the people behind it? Well, there's one, above (visiting a literary site!). He (it's a he) should be examined in a lab. We need answers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-89418632592928164232008-12-16T00:02:00.000-05:002008-12-16T00:02:00.000-05:00It's a nice letter, very civil, but I doubt they'l...It's a nice letter, very civil, but I doubt they'll let it through because they really don't want the blog named by name. Or else the would have done so themselves in the article, no? (to take a phrase from anonymous and jellyhead, aka the circle jerk brothers, apparently. I love the evolution of monikers in the comments)<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I think it best that the incident pass as author vs blogger with no names firmly attached. It's one of those things you could regret down the road. <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, journalists have to sensationalize everything to retain and attract readers (or at least they have to do it to get enough readers) so even though you may have had nice correspondence with Strauss, your side is not going to be heard or fairly represented by the VV. It just wouldn't make good news for them.<BR/><BR/>Good luck with the other stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-8123086213661744972008-12-15T21:20:00.000-05:002008-12-15T21:20:00.000-05:00Here's the comment I submitted for the Voice artic...Here's the comment I submitted for the Voice article. I'm not sure if they'll post it:<BR/><BR/>"As the blogger host of Literary Rejections on Display (LROD), one of the blogs mentioned in this article, I wanted to briefly note that after a few comments about the author's photo being allegedly smirky, Darin Strauss left comments about our criticism not being valid since we hadn't actually read his book. This was a good point, so I publicized his book for more than a month, had a good number of LROD readers go out and buy copies, and then we read and discussed Darin's book, in an online book-club forum. <BR/><BR/>While not everyone loved MORE THAN IT HURTS YOU, many people appreciated it. I, for one,, found him to be talented. I even had some very friendly private emails with Darin about these events. <BR/><BR/>All this is to say, the article sensationalizes the meanness of the "unpublished individuals" in the blogosphere who "wear rejections slips as badges." In fact, most of us at LROD are published, just not as well known as Darin Strauss; hence our jealousy. As for rejection slips, if we wear them as badges, it is only on the lapels of frustration and defeat.<BR/><BR/>If you'd like to read the exchange, google Literary Rejections, and you'll find my blog. There's even a convenient "Darin Strauss" label for easy access to the events described in this article. You can judge for yourself.<BR/><BR/>Thanks, Writer, Rejected"Writer, Rejectedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17241982229214057815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-30194288577345414312008-12-15T21:08:00.000-05:002008-12-15T21:08:00.000-05:00It's plain stupid that you think he's a sociopath ...It's plain stupid that you think he's a sociopath based solely on how he talks about the girl he <I>accidentally killed.</I> If you can trust one of the anonymous commenters way above, it sounds like this is an <I>acccident</I> that can happen to any of us. Sheesh. I'm betting that you are related to the girl who swerved infront of his car. Sorry for you loss man. We have to move on eventually.<BR/><BR/>Sociopathy cannot be diagnosed from a reaction to a tragically accidental death. Take your arm chair psychology elswhere, perhaps to the circle jerk brothers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-89370180983069891142008-12-15T19:45:00.000-05:002008-12-15T19:45:00.000-05:00I found the article so annoying that I mocked it m...I found the article so annoying that I mocked it my blog and I took umbrage at the rather creepy part where he doesn't shut up about kiling the girl as if that's supposed to elicit sympathy.<BR/><BR/>I said he sounded like a sociopath. He commented. He kept commenting. Not once did he say that he was sorry that she died or that he was guilty over the hell he put her family through. It was all about HIM and how HE was being unfairly slandered. ANd how hurtful that was to HIM.<BR/><BR/>Now I actually think that he's a sociopath.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-12385688784411760382008-12-15T17:43:00.000-05:002008-12-15T17:43:00.000-05:00to jellyhead and his anonymouseketeer line-editing...to jellyhead and his anonymouseketeer line-editing critic:<BR/><BR/>why don't you two go back to editing your precious indie journal <I>Scrotum Legion Colonists' Jargon Dipoongy Town Review Online Quarterly Review of Stream of Consciousness Flash Poetry with Enormous Line Breaks</I> <BR/><BR/>take your circle jerk elsewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-50416557969371983602008-12-15T17:30:00.000-05:002008-12-15T17:30:00.000-05:00We can only hope.We can only hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-47793129242555822932008-12-15T17:23:00.000-05:002008-12-15T17:23:00.000-05:00Ahem.Thanks for going slow for me, deary. I'm done...Ahem.<BR/>Thanks for going slow for me, deary. <BR/>I'm done, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-69396708900589577672008-12-15T16:04:00.000-05:002008-12-15T16:04:00.000-05:001. "And could you resist reading into someone's wo...1. "And could you resist reading into someone's words things they didn't write?" <BR/><BR/>--You're right. I'll leave from my future criticism any comment on a writer's unexamined assumptions.<BR/><BR/>2. "Could you proofread?"<BR/><BR/>--Absolutly.<BR/><BR/>3. "Could you learn the meaning of the word "irony"?"<BR/><BR/>--Okay, I'll go slow for you. Here's a quote, a real one, from the post above: "People with no experience in life can stay at their computer or go to the university library." Keep in mind the context, deary. We're on a blog, ahem, which it takes a computer to read. But besides that: People with no experience in life? This stuff is irony, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-29109929502591608512008-12-15T15:20:00.000-05:002008-12-15T15:20:00.000-05:00See posting for December 15, 2008, 8:35 AMThe quot...See posting for December 15, 2008, 8:35 AM<BR/><BR/>The quote is: "The modern literary world and I are not on speaking terms. We don't appreciate each other."<BR/><BR/>I believe this is the origin of Jellyhead's comment.Writer, Rejectedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17241982229214057815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-54674074686283067942008-12-15T15:16:00.000-05:002008-12-15T15:16:00.000-05:00Jellyhead Fred did say "I like the anonymous who.....Jellyhead Fred did say "I like the anonymous who..." so even if JF can't get a quotes or meaning right, he is yet capable of affection.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-87701611933749253582008-12-15T14:56:00.000-05:002008-12-15T14:56:00.000-05:00Jellyhead,Where does he/she use the word "establis...Jellyhead,<BR/>Where does he/she use the word "establishment"? <BR/>Where does he/she claim that he/she (this political correctness is a pain in the ass) is a "purist"? Where does she say that her "dignity cannot not (sic) be bought or sold"?<BR/>I don't see irony in the post. Just a statement of facts. This person doesn't want to read John's work, and John is not a member of the establishment.<BR/>Your post says loads about you. For beginners, you really should take care, if you attribute a quote to someone, to get it correct. And could you resist reading into someone's words things they didn't write? Because you come across as projecting your own biases. Could you proofread? Could you learn the meaning of the word "irony"?<BR/>To your credit, you do admit that you're a jellyhead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-79933328599851856662008-12-15T11:04:00.000-05:002008-12-15T11:04:00.000-05:00I like the anonymous who says that the "modern lit...I like the anonymous who says that the "modern literary establishment" and he/she aren't on speaking terms. He/she is an outsider, a purist--the kind of person's whose dignity cannot not be bought or sold. The kind of person who sees absolutely no irony in his/her post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-5684796763422319522008-12-15T09:50:00.000-05:002008-12-15T09:50:00.000-05:00JAB: Oh come on! A few people said the guy had a...JAB: Oh come on! A few people said the guy had a smirky author photograph! I hardly think that's so awful. A bunch of non-famous writers poking fun at a famous writer is common place. To make up for it, we read his book. I can't censor the fact that not everyone liked. If you recall, I was ultimately won over by his writing. I think the guy's got talent. <BR/><BR/>I also have emails from him saying how nice it is that I was able to turn a negative situation around. I think if everyone at the book club LOVED his book, he would have remembered the whole exchange quite differently. But I'm not going to censor people's opinions.<BR/><BR/>As for the book club, there didn't seem to be much interest. I took the notice down because it was still publicizing Darin's book and an event that happened in September. I'm not going to force a book club, but if another book came up and it seemed relevant, I would certainly revive the book club.<BR/><BR/>Why is everyone so crabby lately? Is it the holidays? You all know what this site is about. You know how it works. Nothing has really changed as far as I can tell.Writer, Rejectedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17241982229214057815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-44850698398827345802008-12-15T08:35:00.000-05:002008-12-15T08:35:00.000-05:00I wrote you that the LROD Book Club was a bad idea...I wrote you that the LROD Book Club was a bad idea. I see you've dropped the picture/link to it. So I guess it's defunct. I guess so. I guess this is how you handle things: ask for people's opinions on a matter, then proceed in silence. Well, it's your blog, your agenda.<BR/>I didn't want to read Strauss' novel. He doesn't want to read mine. I don't want to read what's in Ploughshares or Glimmer Train or any other "literary" magazine. None of their editors want to read my work. And so on. The modern literary world and I are not on speaking terms. We don't appreciate each other.<BR/>I also don't want to read John's work, and I'm sure he doesn't want to read mine.<BR/>Though I WOULD like to take a look at your work, w/r.<BR/>Seems MFA people read what's current. They check out the competition; read what their friends or acquaintances or enemies write; find out what's "hot." I'm seeing a lot of heavily-researched novels. About Robert Frost or Siamese Twins or trench warfare. On and on. People with no experience in life can stay at their computer or go to the university library. <BR/>The alternative is to write bizzaro stuff (show off their brilliant imaginations).<BR/>What a dearth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-70542431933151871092008-12-15T01:29:00.000-05:002008-12-15T01:29:00.000-05:00Exactly WR, you only started moderation when your ...Exactly WR, you only started moderation when your ass was on the line. When Darin Strauss was getting ripped on, no moderation. <BR/><BR/>So how are you innocent exactly? How does giving him a piddly interview make up for displaying a commenter free for all? Why do some people wonder why he's still mad? <BR/><BR/>And John, do you have crush on this guy or what? Dude, he's married and looks pretty straight to me. No wonder they compared some bloggers to toadstools, the behaviour displayed around here some times in beyond the animal kingdom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2703861414547309188.post-52243732210419407242008-12-14T21:40:00.000-05:002008-12-14T21:40:00.000-05:00Actually, I only started moderating comments a cou...Actually, I only started moderating comments a couple of weeks ago when things really started getting rough. The Darin Strauss affair was pre-moderation.Writer, Rejectedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17241982229214057815noreply@blogger.com