I hope no one -- but no one -- is foolish enough to pay the reading fee. You know they're just calling up their old washed-up pals and offering to publish their leftovers.
What a lovely business model -- give readers the magazine for free, but charge the wannabe writers. There certainly are a lot more of them.
i mean, sure, our country's fighting a war of choice, the sea-level is rising, china's brutally suppressing Tibetan sovereignty...but let's save the true vitriol for narrative magazine. if you're stupid enough to send them your money, then you don't deserve to keep that money. come on, writers. we're supposed to be the smart ones!
if you have not read the sfc article, do so, & thx e for pointing it out, because they wonder why they are getting the boot, these newspaper types... it sounded like he wrote it for her! but wait! ... maybe they're onto something here. what if they really do have 40k submissions... at $20 a pop... that's close to 1 million slappers! but their menu is a mess... they should charge a buck for a limerick, $14 for a Shakespearean sonnet, $100 for yr standard novel, $1,000 if you think yr the next James Joyce... get the idea! brilliant... rags to riches...
i hear they do charge a lot for editing novels. i hear their editing service is for trust funders and the fees are exorbitant.
also thanks for that top link to direct-com.com that shows they are running a highly profitable spam business too. that link above is a spammer rate card and shows you can even buy narrative subscribers' names/addresses printed on mailing labels! no wonder i get so much literary type spam. same to my email.
also pay attention to the sfc article. says other journal editors are looking to them for ideas. basically us writers are being played the fool big time. soon all these journals will be selling their mailing addresses like above and making us pay to submit. "it's the only way we can deal with the high number of submissions" yeah right.
What a relief to see that I am not being charged for posting this comment. If a mag wants to avoid readers' fees for all submissions they should be smart enought to to that. They could charge a proper fee for their magazine subscription with a money back guarantee for a specified period. and make all submissions from subscribers free. That would be one compromise showing good faith. I am sure there are many ways to do it if a mag is interested in taking that route. I believe that any mag that charges a flat sub fee with no compensation except a vague promise at the end of a rainbow should be taken with a huge grain of salt. I received a card in the mail from "Narrative" Mag asking me to submit to the 2009contest. I looked carefully on their website for a contact link so I could ask them if my submission would be considered solicited, thereby exempting me from a submission fee. No such link exists. I am very suspicious of any sales org that does not provide a contact e-mail address.
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As Woody Guthrie said, "Some men will rob you with a six gun, others with a fountain pen."
That was a lovely rant.
I hope no one -- but no one -- is foolish enough to pay the reading fee. You know they're just calling up their old washed-up pals and offering to publish their leftovers.
What a lovely business model -- give readers the magazine for free, but charge the wannabe writers. There certainly are a lot more of them.
I love you people
i mean, sure, our country's fighting a war of choice, the sea-level is rising, china's brutally suppressing Tibetan sovereignty...but let's save the true vitriol for narrative magazine. if you're stupid enough to send them your money, then you don't deserve to keep that money. come on, writers. we're supposed to be the smart ones!
if you have not read the sfc article, do so, & thx e for pointing it out, because they wonder why they are getting the boot, these newspaper types... it sounded like he wrote it for her! but wait! ... maybe they're onto something here. what if they really do have 40k submissions... at $20 a pop... that's close to 1 million slappers! but their menu is a mess... they should charge a buck for a limerick, $14 for a Shakespearean sonnet, $100 for yr standard novel, $1,000 if you think yr the next James Joyce... get the idea! brilliant... rags to riches...
i hear they do charge a lot for editing novels. i hear their editing service is for trust funders and the fees are exorbitant.
also thanks for that top link to direct-com.com that shows they are running a highly profitable spam business too. that link above is a spammer rate card and shows you can even buy narrative subscribers' names/addresses printed on mailing labels! no wonder i get so much literary type spam. same to my email.
also pay attention to the sfc article. says other journal editors are looking to them for ideas. basically us writers are being played the fool big time. soon all these journals will be selling their mailing addresses like above and making us pay to submit. "it's the only way we can deal with the high number of submissions" yeah right.
Don't pick on Narrative . At least they are getting stories out to a lot of people , there aren't many who can claim that.
Nor support the claim. Getting stories out to a lot of people is not the issue, transparency is.
What a relief to see that I am not being charged for posting this comment. If a mag wants to avoid readers' fees for all submissions they should be smart enought to to that. They could charge a proper fee for their magazine subscription with a money back guarantee for a specified period. and make all submissions from subscribers free. That would be one compromise showing good faith. I am sure there are many ways to do it if a mag is interested in taking that route. I believe that any mag that charges a flat sub fee with no compensation except a vague promise at the end of a rainbow should be taken with a huge grain of salt. I received a card in the mail from "Narrative" Mag asking me to submit to the 2009contest. I looked carefully on their website for a contact link so I could ask them if my submission would be considered solicited, thereby exempting me from a submission fee. No such link exists. I am very suspicious of any sales org that does not provide a contact e-mail address.
That'll cost you a buck three eighty.
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